[Sakos]

I have zero tolerance for people who push their religious views on others and also use their religion to justify violence. This goes for Islam just as much for Christianity. I don't hear much about Christians beheading people over insulting Jesus in Europe though.

[ssth]

> I have zero tolerance for people who push their religious views on others and also use their religion to justify violence.

Those who push their religious views on others and also use their religion to justify violence are extremely minority, majority of muslims do not do those things. And "bad muslims" always in those media or news because who would read articles about "nice muslim". So you should know what I mean.

And insulting *any* religions is not acceptable and deserve to be punished. As for beheading punishment though, I do not have enough knowledge to comment about it.

[qsort]

> And insulting any religions is not acceptable and deserve to be punished.

Why?

I believe all religions are a bunch of bullshit. Almost all of them regard this belief as a mortal insult. Should I get punished for that?

The only tenable way to treat religions in a liberal democracy is like any other belief. You get full freedom to practice any one you want, or none of them, or even more than one at the same time for all I care, but you don't get any special status or moral authority.

[ssth]

≥ I believe all religions are a bunch of bullshit. Almost all of them regard this belief as a mortal insult.

You may believe in no religion, but I don't think you should say that in public. Especially in front of any religius person you say "your religion is bullshit!".

> Should I get punished for that?

Maybe if that as insult to others.

> The only tenable way to treat religions in a liberal democracy is like any other belief. You get full freedom to practice any one you want, or none of them, or even more than one at the same time for all I care, but you don't get any special status or moral authority.

I agree to this point. But you do not automatically have right to insult other's believe.

[Sakos]

This is insanity. This is like saying insulting Republicans or Democrats should be punishable. There's nothing particularly special about religion that should give it protection from criticism or "disrespect" or being insulted (also, who decides what is an insult? the religious fruitcakes? naw dawg, fucking no). Anything else is such authoritarian insanity that it feels like you're arguing in bad faith, and it just gives religious extremists the protection they need to force their ass-backwards views on everybody else while literally murdering people who they perceive as having "insulted" them or their religion.

If you want to protect "good Muslims", you need to accept liberal values that include being able to "insult" a religion without fear of violent attack.

> As for beheading punishment though, I do not have enough knowledge to comment about it.

What the fuck does this even mean? You think there's some conceivable situation where it's justified to react to "being insulted" with a beheading? You can fuck right off with the rest of the extremists.

[ssth]

> There's nothing particularly special about religion that should give it protection from criticism or "disrespect" or being insulted (also, who decides what is an insult? the religious fruitcakes? naw dawg, fucking no)

Sure enough we do not need law about this. But should we actively offending others because we do not agree to them when we can go by beeing nice each other. Even if we do not share what is critism what is insult, I apologize if you feel offended.

> If you want to protect "good Muslims", you need to accept liberal values that include being able to "insult" a religion without fear of violent attack

Even if there is no violence, anyone should not insult others. And anyone who do violence or murder should be punished by law.

≥ You think there's some conceivable situation where it's justified to react to "being insulted" with a beheading?

No, I think there's no conceivable situation where it's justified to react to "being insulted" with a beheading.

> You can fuck right off with the rest of the extremists.

When I ask anyone to be nice to each other is extremist, well sorry.

Of course violence and terrorist is not right regardless of any reason.

[ssth]

Here I don't mean to say that any country have to create law about this.

As for punishment, I don't mean death punishment. At max should be jail or fine.