[throw310822]

Have any of you had experience interacting with a person with Down's syndrome? They might have the same troubles giving correct answers even to simple question and need guidance to answer them correctly. Would you say that they don't possess "general intelligence"? Of course not. Being unable to perform some tasks that seem trivial to us does not, per se, prove a lack of general intelligence.

[rhn_mk1]

Thank you. I think every challenge about "AGI" should include an explanation of what "general intelligence" is. Is a toddler a "general intelligence"? Is my dog? Is a senile grandma?

Obviously, we don't have a widely agreed upon concept of intelligence. That makes all challenges of the form "is this an AGI" just a show of publicity: "look how silly it is!".

The only reasonable answer to an ill-defined question is "I don't know".

[qwytw]

Are you implying that ChatGPT possesses "general intelligence"? It's very advanced statistical model/search engine. It can be pretty good at imitating humans and provided answers bases on a huge corpus of content it was trained on. However that's not really that close to human intelligence.

I mean it's both several magnitudes more 'intelligent' than humans in some ways and also more stupid in different ways.

[throw310822]

> Are you implying that ChatGPT possesses "general intelligence"?

I am saying that it well could. We should probably agree on a definition of "general intelligence" though.

> It's very advanced statistical model/search engine.

That is just how the sausage is made. Of course there is no magic or soul or life spark in it- if that's needed to make AGI, then AGI is impossible.

> I mean it's both several magnitudes more 'intelligent' than humans in some ways and also more stupid in different ways.

Yes, definitely. But again, do you define AGI as average human equivalent intelligence? Shouldn't that deserve a different label (Average-Human intelligence maybe)?

[qwytw]

I Sure, I can agree that it depending on how you defined intelligence it can be considered intelligent in a way.

> Of course there is no magic or soul or life spark in it- if that's needed to make AGI

I don't know. I mean maybe AGI is possible, but if the goal is to imitate humans rather than some other more practical purpose it would probably have to be very different from ChatGPT.

Trying to compare it to average human intelligence is not even apples to oranges in my opinion. It's something completely different yet superficially similar to the way how humans think (due to obvious reasons)