[bdefore]

Not who you responded to, but I thought you described your case elegantly neutral to the God question. I suspected you were coming from that perspective, but your argument stood on its own.

Now that said, if we did find alien life, how would your feelings about God change?

[alienalp]

I don't base existence of GOD on this. Simply GOD is only thing that does not need anything to be based on so it is possible to explain existence. I was trying to point that evolution is statistically close to impossible (from my understanding) and GOD made it possible. Thus aliens are unlikely. And it seems like there is no sign of aliens in holly books. If there was aliens and it was conflicting with holly books then it would mean that holly books i believe are fake however i am not saying that existence of Aliens would conflict with Holly books either (I am not sure about that). The explanation of this existence to you is what GOD means to you. And you need to define some element to explain this existence. And what would you define eventually means GOD to you.

[kgwxd]

Every book, holy or otherwise, that was ever written was written by humans. What makes you think they are “real” in the first place?

There’s no mention of a ton of very significant things we now know to be real in any holy book. Why isn’t that stuff enough “proof” they’re “fake”?

[xerox13ster]

I don't believe you have read your "holly" books. There are plenty of alien beings described in detail in that book.

I also reject your out-of-hand assertion that whatever one thinks about the world's existence has the same meaning to someone as your mythical being has to you.

How blown would your mind be if I posited to you that what you call "GOD" is the universe? Your holly book says he is everywhere and everything all at once, does it not? That "He is within all of us", and yet we are the universe observing itself. He came about out of nowhere with no trace of origin? We don't know what caused the big bang, it just happened.

If aliens exist, it's because the universe "allowed" it to happen (aka the statistical probability is high enough for it to occur or we would not be alive having this conversation) not some conscious divine being.

[Retric]

Which logically means your definition of GOD would include a non sentient physical processes that lacks a free will etc. At that point why label it GOD rather than say space time or whatever?

[alienalp]

Existence of universe has nothing to do with something about universe. Or at leas not have to. You cannot explain existence of space time with space time

[yibg]

Why not? If GOD has always existed why can’t space and time?

[alienalp]

That is the thing if you are talking about space-time it didn't existed before the Big Bang.

[Retric]

That’s one model, but we really don’t know what happened before the Big Bang.

Still labeling pre Big Bang as SpaceTimeTime or calling that Space Time and relabeling what we experience as local space time doesn’t really matter here. The point is our Big Bang could be happening infinite times in a multiverse without beginning or end. That’s one possibility where there isn’t anything conscious to point to as a GOD just the same kind of things which make up physical reality.