[pzone]

You just have to look at Tokyo and Taipei. It is possible for cities to grow without soaring rents as long as you build lots of housing for everyone.

We’re not just talking about the tiny San Francisco city proper, we’re talking about the whole Bay Area, as well as the rest of the state.

You’re right that fixing housing won’t fix everything, but more problems than you think are caused by high housing prices, particularly crime and homelessness. https://www.worksinprogress.co/issue/the-housing-theory-of-e...

[mindover]

But... San Franciscans don't want to live in a city like Tokyo or Taipei. Who would benefit from this changing city with taller buildings? Not many San Franciscans want that, so newcomers? I am not convinced either. People love the Bay and move here because of what it is, not because of what it is not. The complaints that I am hearing most often are about public transport, crime, street cleaning, social services. Not about having small buildings in SF.