[netruk44]

I haven't played the Steam version, but it's my understanding the menus aren't keyboard-based anymore. That alone is a massive undertaking, Dwarf Fortress has an insane number of submenus for them to figure out good GUI places for them all.

Everything used to just be in a central massive "press a single letter for this specific submenu" sub-screen on the right third of the screen, with multiple submenus to navigate to what you're trying to do.

[mijoharas]

Yes, they also implemented a tutorial, which I think is new, and reordered and reorganised the menus iirc. (This is from memory so I could of course be wrong).

[thatguy0900]

All the menus are still keyboard navagable, if you have that muscle memory already. I think that's a great touch

[MrLeap]

This isn't true, as far as I know. Some menus are, but hotkeys have been changed quite a bit. Quite a few menus seem mouse only.

I can't ABABABABABAB to add a bunch of beds to a carpenter anymore, DD doesn't mine.

The hotkey path for placing doors in the steam version is bananas. Still a great game! Hoping there's a mod or a patch that lets me use the classic keys with the new interface eventually though.

[Arrath]

Yes, there are some definite losses in the move to a mouse based interface. I'm glad I had enough of a break from my last ASCII DF play, so my muscle memory isn't driving me insane. Some of the hotkeys are a little rough (requiring a big stretch across the keyboard or two hands on the kb but I'm using a mouse now..) and I hope they get another pass.

[MrLeap]

YUP. Critical functions (doors?!) should all be on the left side of the keyboard if you're going to make me use the mouse.

Wonder if the publishers use DVORAK or something.

[Arrath]

Whoever settled on B-P-R for doors is some form of sadist.

[OkayPhysicist]

The real move is to get in the habit of forbidding your fancy stuff by default, and then using "closest material" and "keep building after placement" for all furniture.

[pacoWebConsult]

Agree there's definitely some quirks with building and making things not via work orders. Even for queuing up a couple of copper greaves at a metalworker's shop (because my king is obsessed with demanding their creation and banning their export), I opt for work orders rather than going through and selecting armor -> copper -> greaves twice.

[OkayPhysicist]

Or when 20 something dwarves plummet into lave in a tragic mining accident and you need to engrave all the slabs? awful. On the whole, the UI stuff is a significant improvement, though.

[Hikikomori]

You csn select bed and select placing multiple ones now, so no need to spam hotkeys.

[Arrath]

Place, yes. But queuing them up for crafting in a workshop is a chore of clicks before you have an office set up for making work orders.

Nested menus in workshops get even worse. God forbid having to click and scroll Steel -> Weapon -> Battleaxe too many times.

[Hikikomori]

Yeah i only use work orders now, only look at workshops to see what they make if I didn't already know.

[Octopodes]

Are you certain? I've played the classic version for ten years and the Steam release has completely different hotkeys, and is missing keyboard control for some tasks entirely.