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by renewiltord 1263 days ago
Jesus the capacitive touch signaling is astoundingly stupid.

The horn, though. In decades of driving, I've used my horn maybe once or twice.

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Here in India we have to use horns twice a minute.

If they want to sell cars in the developing world, they better make their inputs tactile or people won’t buy them.

Yeah but the Model 3 is a 58 lakh car before the import duty. If you have to pay 1 crore for a car, you're going to make your driver suffer through the horn.

IMHO India will have indigenous EVs far before Tesla.

I doubt India is of any concern to Tesla, except for cheap labor.
Once a pickup truck decided to back out of a failed left turn when the light turned red. Stupid and illegal.

I'd remained well behind the stop line, lots of space between us, so I figured he was just using up a little of it to get his nose out of the middle of the intersection and I hesitated.

He had no idea my sedan was there and backed right over my hood.

I'd never used the horn in that car. It took a firmer press than I expected, a slightly different angle... the milliseconds involved in figuring that out contributed to the accident.

It's worth practicing your horn in any car you're driving and it's worth honking at someone backing up if you're not absolutely sure they see you.

Hmm, that's a reasonable scenario. I don't envision I'll ever be in it, but the cost of knowing how to honk is low. Fair point. Convinced.
I used it with some degree of frequency, because I had to drive past that one specific curve. Sharp corner with a big elevation change, narrow road, narrow pavement. It was a visibility nightmare and honking the horn was the only way you could signal your presence to people coming in the other direction.
When that rare case happens, though, it can be rather important to signal fast.
How often have you used your airbag?
About as many times, but the key thing is that the horn is only useful if I'm static since otherwise it's faster for me to evade than honk. I estimate ~0.5 s to 1 s net delay to action if I were to honk, with 0.5 s to 1 s delay in action from other person if they're fast. At a 2 s delay, unless I'm not moving, evasion + braking seems superior. And evasion is made harder while honking. I've had many times where people run red lights in front of me (I live in SF) but I've never honked. It's frequently too late to do anything so I just brake.
The point I was making was that something doesn’t need to be used often for it to be important and for you to want it to be reliable.

Also, the horn is a signal. It allows you to evade and alert other users that something needs their attention. Maybe they need to avoid you while you avoid something else.