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by jesuscript 1257 days ago
Try to take solace in the fact that no one cares about your anxiety. In fact, no one cares about you at all.

A lot of people in tech are just massive losers, I wouldn't want to be around the work version of their soul (usually they are much more normal outside of that context). They come from half assed bootcamps or self learning or non relevant majors, and have intense inferiority complexes. This manifests in this type of behavior. A lot also come from more "legit" backgrounds and have intense superiority complexes. It's a shit show from top to bottom. Couple all this with the 10x engineer mantra and stuff, and the general male dominant/new age yuppy lifestyles, it's like the last type of person you'd ever want to be around.

I've been all of these things and more, and I'm disgusted with myself. Here's my tip:

They say one form of meditation is to be cognizant of meandering thoughts. Watch as they show up in your head, acknowledge it, and let it pass by you. Don't react. Do this at work. When you see the system you hate, and the cosigners of the system (your coworkers) dancing to the tune, just go "heh, oh, you are doing that thing", and let it pass without reacting.

And a follow up to that tip addressing the solution you proposed of finding a smaller company:

It's the same shit at smaller companies. It can be even worse. You'll just run into another egomaniac that thinks they are king shit of that small company, or will find you threatening, or whatever. Again, it happens from top to bottom, so you will see the inferiority/superiority complexes in the devs down to the fucking office secretary.

You won't be able to run from any of it.

“Where would I find enough leather To cover the entire surface of the earth? But with leather soles beneath my feet, It’s as if the whole world has been covered.” ― Shantideva

Cover your feet with foam, there isn't a company that has nice soft carpet. But, be honest with yourself. If you embark on this new attitude, you must first acknowledge all the ways you were a shithead yourself that did much of the same things.

2 comments

Please take this the right way because I see many aspects of my personality in your post and I’m coming from a place of love: the way you phrased this is full of self-loathing.

People being arrogant or submissive is not necessarily a “complex”. Being passionate and opinionated is sometimes stated positively as “strong opinions loosely held” because it’s a demeanor that allows the best ideas to bubble up in a smart group. Under qualified people definitely find their way in everywhere but in my experience software engineering chops are orthogonal to where you went to school, bootcamp and self-taught are often just as good as CS majors from respectable schools. In short, I think your observations are accurate but your disposition and interpretation is needlessly pessimistic.

I certainly won’t take it the wrong way. Pointing out how one end of the spectrum have inferiority complexes is not an out right attack on their credentials. It’s more of a ‘I know you are trying to overcompensate’, which is fine for a bit, but if it goes on too long it can be tiring.

Self loathing is not an issue I have with who I am today. I absolutely hated who I was before, and get annoyed at anyone that reminds me of me from then. In other words, I have no love or empathy for that version of me.

Whether that’s healthy (it isn’t) is a whole other can of psycho mumbo jumbo.

My general abrasive disposition is something I want to work on though.

Edit:

I do think it’s worth examining the types of personalities involved because this is not as simple as saying X company has X culture and therefore people act like shitheads. I want to know more about the individual shitheads and what makes them vulnerable to this type of archetype.

Totally agree with your last point. There's just not enough information in the post to really assess what's happening with any accuracy. It's open to wild speculation. On one extreme the manager could be putting a toxic level of pressure directly, on the other extreme it could be entirely self-inflicted. If I had to guess, the truth is most likely somewhere in between due to a general stressful miasma in the air of the current macro-environment after a 12-year bull run, a rank and file dominated by a younger cohort that has never known any different, and the general failure of Zuck's metaverse vision so far.

Would this be better somewhere else? Very hard to say. Meta is incredibly solid from a revenue and business perspective, and they've taken their medicine, so upside is definitely there. Meanwhile the economy is affecting pretty much everyone, so good luck finding somewhere more stable. All of this is background noise compared to the individuals involved though. Could be as simple as just changing teams internally.

Not my experience at all. Almost all companies I have worked for in my 30+ years career were OK or a pleasure to work for. The one exception was a seriously dysfunctional company run by incompetent narcissists. However it was most definitely the exception.

And yes occasionally I would clash with a single individual out of 50 to 150 individuals. But that’s to be expected whenever you have a large group of individuals working together.