[bbbbb5]

Tesla is far behind everyone else on navigation due to the simple fact that Teslas do not have Carplay. There's no Waze on Teslas, how can you drive without it?

But here's how the current Mercedes navigation looks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCgy3askMcM The AR stuff works really well and is arguably way ahead of anything Tesla offers.

[rtp4me]

Hard disagree on this one. I have both a 2021 Tesla Model Y and a 2021 Toyota Rav4 Hybrid. Overall, the Tesla system is much better than the Toyota Infotainment system. For example:

  * Tesla maps has a much better zoom/scroll feature (faster, more detail, smoother).   The Toyota map requires you to hit the "zoom" button and then click zoom-in/out

  * The calendar tool built into the Tesla allows me to easily navigate to the appointment location.

  * Tesla maps have way-point selection (set an additional stop between start and end) 

  * The Toyota Infotainment system does not appear to have a "night mode".  Thus, the display puts out a ton of light during night-time driving (even with the brightness level set to minimum)

  * Waze is way too "chatty" for my taste

Because of the above, I am forced to use Apple CarPlay in the Toyota because the default UI experience is so horrible. Overall, I like the Toyota (great gas mileage), but I much prefer to drive the Tesla.

[bbbbb5]

Great, your Tesla has better infotainment than ... a Toyota.

> * Waze is way too "chatty" for my taste

You can adjust that.

[lostmsu]

None of what you listed is applicable to Android Auto/CarPlay, which is exactly what parent was saying. For Android Auto it is a $100 device to make the system wireless so you don't have to pull your phone out of your pocket.

[rtp4me]

Sorry, but the parent to my specific comment did not mention anything about Andriod Auto/Carplay. Their comment specifically said "Tesla is far behind everyone else on navigation due to the simple fact that Teslas do not have Carplay". I am pointing out this is definitely not true.

[gggggg5]

That's a deeply confusing interpretation. The correct reading is "Carplay brings better-than-Tesla navigation to any car."

[mbesto]

I've used both Tesla and Honda's Carplay for ~2 years now. I really enjoy Carplay (and the phone integration is a huge plus), but a few things:

- re: waze - huh? Google Maps is just fine. The differences are such a personal preference that they are moot.

- The touch controls on Carplay are not great. Try pinching and zooming on Google Maps in Carplay and its awful. (note - I do think Tesla misses the boat on having more physical controls as they almost rely entirely on touch...which is unsafe and not great)

> But here's how the current Mercedes navigation looks

Looks awesome, but that appears to be on a €185k ICE car.

[bbbbb5]

>- re: waze - huh? Google Maps is just fine. The differences are such a personal preference that they are moot.

Waze tells you where cameras and cops are, Google Maps usually does not.

>- The touch controls on Carplay are not great. Try pinching and zooming on Google Maps in Carplay and its awful. (note - I do think Tesla misses the boat on having more physical controls as they almost rely entirely on touch...which is unsafe and not great)

I don't think I've ever needed to do this, it always automatically positions the map correctly.

>Looks awesome, but that appears to be on a €185k ICE car.

Pretty sure the pricing starts at €94,540. They also have an EV at around the same price, but it's an all-around worse car.

[mbesto]

> Waze tells you where cameras and cops are, Google Maps usually does not.

Cameras are only really relevant in Europe. We don't really have these in the US. I do get the cops angle - google maps doesn't really do this.

> I don't think I've ever needed to do this

Tesla uses google maps under the hood and its auto adjustments are incredible (as good as Waze). However, every once in an awhile you want to "look ahead" and the Carplay simply sucks for this feature.

> Pretty sure the pricing starts at €94,540

It literally says in the description:

PRICE OF THE MODEL IN THE VIDEO: 185.269 EUR

[bbbbb5]

>Cameras are only really relevant in Europe. We don't really have these in the US. I do get the cops angle - google maps doesn't really do this.

Well yeah, in Europe we don't have cops on the roads. In the US you don't have cameras, but have cops everywhere. You still want Waze in either case, probably more so for the cops.

>PRICE OF THE MODEL IN THE VIDEO: 185.269 EUR

This has to be including local taxes, which in some EU countries can double the price of a car.

[nouveaux]

Waze is not able to plan a route with all the charging stops you need. Waze is fairly bad in an EV.