[modoc]

Where are you finding small wage plumbers or carpenters? All the trades here (plumbing, electrical, HVAC, carpentry (perhaps more on the finish side vs framing though) are extremely expensive, with hourly rates between $80-$150/hour. (source - did a lot of renovations on my house, and my BIL is an electrician).

[nibbleshifter]

Lol, the tradesman isn't taking that home.

Neither is the apprentice that probably is doing half the work.

[modoc]

I'm mostly using small companies where it's the owner and maybe his son or 1-2 employees doing the work. Likewise my BIL has his own company that's just him and his best friend. So yeah those guys are all taking 100% of the rate. Granted they have to pay taxes and insurance, and all that like I do, but they're doing well overall.

[com2kid]

Neighbor was getting his deck painted a few months ago.

Talked to the guy doing the painting, he was getting $80/hr.

(Related: IMHO my neighbor sucks at finding affordable prices for painters!)

[peruvian]

It's insane how uninformed all the "tell your kids to get into the trades!" techies are.

[Adraghast]

The median annual wage for electricians was $60,040 in May 2021. The median wage is the wage at which half the workers in an occupation earned more than that amount and half earned less. The lowest 10 percent earned less than $37,020, and the highest 10 percent earned more than $99,800.

[UncleMeat]

The laborer isn't seeing 100% of that bill.

[orwin]

I mean, carpentry is really cheap here and not at all comparable to the other trades, and i know it's worse in the US.

[berkle4455]

Wages of an employee versus hourly labor rates a customer pays are vastly different things.

[Ekaros]

And how many billable hours there are on average in a month? Does the rate include tools or some of the materials?