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by icelancer 1266 days ago
I have an i10 index of 2, h index of 3, 71 total citations. Not that impressive, but just goes to show I have some experience in this area.

So...

> If you don't mind me asking, how do you deal with this kind of culture, where a normal process is being purposefully obstructed with such behavior from the reviewer?

You just come to expect it. I realize this isn't the best answer or even a reasonable one, but it's how it is and there's really no controlling it.

> Do you ever call people out who sprinkle their "reviews" with such passive aggression?

No. Your field is dominated by experts who have a clique and run a crony network of influencers; getting mad at one of them is a great way to ensure you never hit tenure track / get punished on papers in the future (many journals are not blinded, or even if they are, it's fairly obvious who wrote a blinded paper given the subject matter in a niche field and/or timing attacks on the paper's submission + researcher's social media posts on the topics).

Sometimes - most of the time in my field - you have no idea who the reviewers were. I think this is typical for most science fields.

> What is their defense?

They suffered by much worse hands; really, they're being nice. (That's what they tell themselves.)

> What highlights does your profession have that make it worth putting up with this?

Very few. I work for a for-profit company, so the research we publish helps bolster the company's image, can be used in marketing, and so forth. Going from zero to one feels amazing. One day you're a guy with a dream that you'll publish an influential paper someday and give back to science, the next you have that publication credit - maybe even lead author credit - and going from 1 to N is just nowhere as interesting as going 0 to 1... like most things in life.

For some of us, science is in our blood, and it's our calling. Whether we like it or not. Most of the time, we don't. But we do it anyway.

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To hopefully add to the discussion here. Not a scientist (professional), nor do i have a degree in anything (debt sucks), but AFA i see it, a reviewer shouldn't be evaluating a paper based on a popularity contest, but based scientific rigor and well reasoned approach that paper has. If the data is good, if their analysis is good, etc etc etc. On things that aren't dependent on being in a clique and/or popular.

That just smells of bad science, and make it not surprising the mainstream is "lagging behind". People actively stifling real scientific advancement, instead of letting it flourish.

I feel bad for people that do have that purity of purpose that either have to put up with that kind of BS, and people that have been victims of said behaviour.

I appreciate very much people who have it in their blood, their passion, like i have music and singing in my blood. You know you'll get someone who'll do the best job possible, and care about what sort of science is being done. Thank you for being you

I came across this recently and your post made me wonder what you'd think of it:

https://experimentalhistory.substack.com/p/the-rise-and-fall...

I won't butcher the piece with a poor summary but it's a critical look at the peer review process.

I've read this post - broadly, I agree very much with it.

Unfortunately, inertia is a hell of a thing. Science is stuck with peer review for a few more decades at the very least. Many postgrads would do unspeakable things and commit various crimes to become a first author on a paper accepted into Nature, for example. It just means everything to academics.

arXiv is the biggest undermining threat to the professional peer review process, but in a weird way, it also bolsters it.

Anyway, at least Computer Science doesn't care much about academic journals. Hacker culture remains fairly strong.

> arXiv is the biggest undermining threat to the professional peer review process, but in a weird way, it also bolsters it.

How do you mean?

I am a layperson but I guess arXiv moderation is not different from peer-review. Some authors have voiced concern over the lack of transparency in the arXiv screening process.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArXiv#Moderation_process_and_e...