| It's a fair criticism, I know it's a bit harsh! I appreciate it and both the more fair take. > User's don't want a troubled ecosystem and will find languages that avoid these problems It's true, I'm very late to Python myself -- for the exact same reason. The distribution part of the ecosystem is a nightmare. People want utilities, but they learn more than they ever cared to because of dependencies. I'm only learning how to manage it now because work demands it. Prior, all of my needs had fortunately been met by my Linux distribution of choice -- the Python part was abstracted away, for the most part. Developers of these utilities could save some (shared) effort by offering package specs/finding a maintainer, but I understand why it's not common. (I may even build/maintain it for you, to sweeten the pot) I guess the fuel of this thing is, 'misery loves company' -- I'm dealing with it, and I can't just whine about it. The "I don't use it and it still affects me part" was the bait -- they do use it |