[dragonwriter]

> If Ukraine somehow takes any Russian territory (defined as post 2014)…

You mean, pre-2014? They’ve already taken post-2014 “Russian” territory.

[bgorman]

In 2014 Russia annexed Crimea, and parts of the Donbas became controlled by "separatists".

Ukraine is currently not close to retaking Crimea.

[dragonwriter]

Russia has “annexed” additional territory post-2014, some of which was subsequently taken by Ukraine (and some of which was already controlled by Ukraine when it was “annexed”.)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_annexation_of_Donets...