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by tannhaeuser 1263 days ago
> Yes, I know hardly anyone uses Swing anymore.

Actually, Swing is the GUI toolkit used by IntelliJ IDEA, one of the few if not the only commercially successful and kick-ass Java desktop app(s).
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jeffreportmill1 1263 days ago
The only real problem with Swing is that there was never a version 2. If it had been separated from AWT, updated some of the APIs and given a modern look-and-feel, it would still be relevant today. JavaFX is nice, but it broke too many conventions.

And, of course, Oracle or OpenJDK (or someone) needed to invest in a browser port of the JVM, which is totally possible these days.

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gk_brown 1263 days ago
Take a look at FlatLAF:

https://github.com/JFormDesigner/FlatLaf

They have done a great job bringing a modern appearance to the Swing components.

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whartung 1263 days ago
NetBeans switched to FlatLaf, and looks pretty good.

As I understand it, IDEA has done a lot of "Swing Work". I don't know if it's just augmenting existing or creating a bunch of new controls or if they delved deeper. It's just my understanding that IDEA is Swing, but not as we know it. I could be wrong.

NetBeans is pretty much pure Swing.

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neuronexmachina 1263 days ago
For their next-gen Fleet IDE though, it looks like Jetbrains is using Kotlin and Skia/skiko?

* https://blog.jetbrains.com/fleet/2022/01/fleet-below-deck-pa...

* https://twitter.com/jetbrains_fleet/status/14653112312717393...

* https://github.com/JetBrains/skiko

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gk_brown 1263 days ago
Agreed. I said as much in my response to this issue that was opened the other day:

https://github.com/HTTP-RPC/Sierra/issues/12

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