[littleidea]

I couldn't disagree more. In this case, being more specific is only going to multiply the gossip and opinion.

There is more than enough data in the google doc to support a discussion.

Furthermore, you now have comments from people who have had the first hand experiences I described. I'm willing to wager they didn't go through the programs I would specifically identify.

I'm not sure what else one could need to have a discussion, but suit yourself.