[marcusverus]

Nah. Have you ever heard a mainstream progressive offer up a concrete plan to actually address the existing power asymmetry? All you get is impotent platitudes about reversing Citizens United, or the implied belief that tax-and-spend policies (i.e. the progressive platform) will naturally solve the problem over time.

In other words, the pitch is something like, "The ultra rich are have too much influence. How do we fix it? Why, just vote progressive!" which is exactly what you would expect if the focus on the ultra rich was merely a political ploy.

[kristopolous]

"mainstream progressive" does all the lifting in that sentence.

You knew for a fact that I could point to dozens of people so you guarded it with something you could move the goalposts on and then be "dude that's not mainstream enough".

Cool. Not playing that stupid game. The entire internet is so fed up with all of these stupid right wing negging games. Nobody cares any more.

You're liars frauds and scoundrels. Everyone's on to it