[dylan604]

>What do kids have to do with anything?

What do kids ever have to do with anything? They are the next generation that may or may not want to be involved in whatever they might be getting inspired by.

>The goal is to get to space affordably and reliably; the shuttle failed on both fronts SpaceX is succeeding at.

Shuttle had ~135 missions (number from memory) with 1 failure at launch. The second failure was at re-entry, so assumption is that the mission deployed whatever was being deployed (if that was part of the mission). How many missions has SpaceX lost payloads on? >1? If we do percentages, sure, but to say that 1 failure at launch is unreliable is just farcical.

[ktpecot]

Are you actually trying to say the mission when Columbia came apart on re entry and killed 7 people was successful? And you’re gonna say the challenger mission failure that killed people is the same as SpaceX losing a satellite and a dragon cargo capsule.

That’s one of the worst takes I’ve ever heard

[mannerheim]

The space shuttle killed 14 people because it was a poorly-built, designed-by-committee piece of garbage.