[touisteur]

CPAP is nice, but it can be a pain in the ass ; 9 months in I'm still struggling to use it consistently, with heavily deviated septum, allergies, seasonal sniffing. When I can consistently keep the mask on (nose) without feeling like I'm drowning, for at least a week, I get quite the refreshed feeling. Quite rare though... Tried all possible machine tunings, products, herbs, massages, activities... Still not there yet. And the surgeon isn't convinced I'll get better sleep even with deviated septum surgery, says he'd need to correct stuff 'behind' too. There's the 'mouth and nose' mask option but that leaks far more and is even more harder to sleep with...

Seems if you breathe from your mouth when you grow up, your tongue isn't parked up, pushing on your palate, and your jaw and face bones don't grow up correctly and it's very hard to correct as an adult. I get bone and articulation pains with the CPAP machine, since my tongue is now parked correctly it pushes hard...

Get your kids looked at. It's all hereditary for me (deviated septum) and I regret no-one telling me to get it looked at seriously when younger.

[brigandish]

I had that surgery, more than once, and I have trouble breathing when I sleep. I'm finding it hard to get a CPAP (I'm abroad in a non-English speaking nation so that's probably a factor). Have you tried taping your mouth closed? If you're definitely safe using the CPAP then you might try it, that's my plan.

Aside from that, I've found yoga and meditation that uses the breath as an object helps with my breath quality when awake, and recently I'm trying hot/cold contrasts (a hot bath and cold shower) as outlined in this Huberman Lab podcast[1]. I've noticed that my sinuses are clearer afterwards. That could be the steam or another reason, it is hard work though!

> I regret no-one telling me to get it looked at seriously when younger.

Me too, I had terrible advice, from medical professionals too. They didn't seem to care so I'm heartened by the recent findings which, even though they scare the hell out of me because it underlines all the problems I face and most likely will face, those walking behind us may have an easier road.

[1] https://hubermanlab.com/the-science-and-health-benefits-of-d...

[touisteur]

Oh getting a CPAP was a breeze here in France and I didn't/don't have to pay a cent, neither for diagnosis nor for renting the machine nor the quite serious tech support and follow-up. So, while the rest of the French health system seems to be collapsing, this still works.

And it's (IMO) clever, since it's such a game changer for most of the people I met who use it, many costly ailments disappear. It's probably a winner for overall productivity and a great reducer of sick days and late-life healthcare.