[pibechorro]

I agree. But.. a) despite all the valid criticisms, Pele was still a great of his generation. Players like him, Distefano, etc where ahead of their time and helped modernize football. Respect.

B) Messi did not take a shit team to wc glory, the 2014 team had the best defense of the tournament and players like Mascherano, Dimaria, Kun, etc where hardly shit. They where just simply unlucky with injuries (kun, dimaria, higuan all not 100%) and the missed opportunities in the final by the whole front line, including Messi.

This 2022 team had a record two year unbeaten run with 3 major trophys (copa, wc, continental). That is hardly a shit team, its the opposite.

Maradonas 1990 final run WAS a shit team, and he did it with a broken ankle.

[prmph]

There is nothing valid about the criticisms you are replying to. I have made a sibling comment that explains why.