[HellDunkel]

should we not put up some serious effort to make work less disappointing? i think everybody, especially the senior folks need to up their game a little and say „no“ a lot more. we are trapped in a loop of endlessly stupid hypecylces and we will never break out by stating „work is often disappointing“ and call it a day.

[farleykr]

I'm not saying we should turn a blind eye to disappointments because "that's just the way it is." Work itself is a process of taking things that are not good or disappointing and correcting them. But maligree is getting at the idea of finding ultimate fulfillment at work. I'm convinced that even a thousand years from now we'll still be experiencing disappointment at work and if we wait for disappointment to be gone from work so we can find ultimate fulfillment in it we'll never get there.

[HellDunkel]

disappointment, set backs and failures are part of work and this is not a problem but a very natural thing. The thing about software is that we do way too many stupid and downright useless things and this leads to a lot of frustration. Imagine we built houses like we do software.