[anonzzzies]

> Maybe if all you ever exchanged with someone was a few sentences about inconsequential stuff.

Like usually on HN, you give humans too much credit. Most people never exchange anything else with anyone but inconsequential stuff. IRL and online. The AI will give itself away by being too eager to write content and too grammatically/semantically correct and not random and inconsistent enough.

Go to some places (instagram is pretty good for that) where people basically only communicate in emoji's and memes and where every sentence longer than 4 words is misunderstood because no-one actually has reading comprehension.

> Right now the performance of ChatGPT in your average discord chat room would be absolutely awful.

Most of the internet, including many discord channels are already absolutely awful.

So yeah, it is a problem; for me, most people responding outside a few discord channels, subreddits, lobsters and hn, it's already bots or humans that could as well be bots anyway. And only a matter of time before it takes over those few places that are still ok.

I will probably move to meetups offline more and more. The opposite of what I did my whole life.

[dragonwriter]

> Most people never exchange anything else with anyone but inconsequential stuff. IRL and online.

If my interaction with them is that shallow, does it matter if they are real or a bot?

[anonzzzies]

No, that’s kind of my point. It doesn’t matter for most people, so there will be some (futile) resistance and that is it.

The problem is when AIs become such high quality that they can influence people’s minds and behaviours through psychological tricks. This is also already happening but mostly humans are creating that content which is upvoted and responded to by their bots.

This is going to be AI soon-ish and that is a problem imho. But not something we will be able to do much about except KYC people as rigoureus as banks do (bye bye privacy, unless this is implemented well) or making them pay to post. Both won’t kill all bots, but will shrink the reach of them as suddenly it’s a very costly affair to do at scale (buying real people and paying to post).

[trompetenaccoun]

Spelling mistakes can easily be added, as can reply delays. I think the mainstream will soon realize that Sybil resistance is not just important but essential for any forum or social network in the future. We need ways to ID users as humans, preferably in a way that preserves privacy for those who do not want to have their real identity linked to random internet comments.

[anonzzzies]

You can do KYC with a KYC specialized company and agree on some way of not having the social media company getting hold of that info, just ‘user4639284757483858 is a real human and they are not already on your platform’.

[trompetenaccoun]

Until they get hacked and your entire identity is leaked, not just Facebook and HN but all other accounts, linked to your government issued ID or SSN.