[protortyp]

If you're interested in this topic, you might want to check out ASRG[1]. It's a community of safety and security professionals in the industry working to improve standards. They share their research openly and have regular in-person and online events where you can reach out to people.

[1] https://asrg.io/

[AlotOfReading]

"Safety" and "Security" are considered separate topics in the automotive world, even though there's some overlap between them. There are usually completely separate teams with different skillsets responsible for each at any given manufacturer. ASRG is pretty focused on the security side rather than the safety side.

[owalt]

Short version of the difference: Safety = This shouldn't cause harm. Security = This should be hard to hack.

[uconnectlol]

It's sad that this and many other admirable movements like langsec will never amount to much because of the false dilemma that everything needs to be complicated because of "reasons" (politics, in automobiles, and "the poor user who needs a complicated to implement interface that changes every day" in the case of langsec). That is, most electronics in vehicles are obviously not needed, and if it was up to me infotainment would just be illegal aside from a basic physical knob to change volume of some audio in the 3.5mm jack (and not by sending a digital signal to a system that makes the user readjust it several times after the large input delay). I was being half serious but now that I think of it bluetooth and "smart" tech and such atrocities should just be illegal. They are like what's already accepted as illegal harmful Chinese products.