[BostonEnginerd]

I think the problem is you’re trading one set of untrustworthy actors for another set of lesser known untrustworthy actors.

[unshavedyak]

Yea, but that's not _my_ problem. My problem is "fuck comcast".

As for the public wifi, i get that i can't trust my random Dropbox VM for example, but i can surely trust it more than an actively hostile public wifi, no? If i can't trust any remote computing VM, how can i host anything on infra i don't own?

[BostonEnginerd]

Of course, I fully expect someone commenting on HN to understand the issues and to have made the trade off.

It took a lot of explaining to my parents why a VPN didn’t add any meaningful security for them.

[unshavedyak]

Very good point. They also sell it as if _just_ using a VPN equals security. I can't count the number of ads i've seen that over sell that :/