[eternalban]

The idea is that Consciousness is in fact a manifestation of 'God' and we're little sparkly transducers of the divine, & that no amount of 'structure' can give rise to our godlike -- we are 'sentient creators with free will' -- consciousness. Various spiritual schools differ on precise formulation. The one I am familiar with, Qu'ran, explicitly asserts that whatever can be considered 'Light' in 'the Universe' is God. "God is the Light of the heavens and the earth".

So the proposed arrogance is the 'metaphysical arrogance' that attributes such a profound capability with a few kilograms of organic matter. Interestingly in Qur'an, this sin of 'arrogance', and, associating 'sentient worth' to its material composition (the famous statement of satan that it is "made of fiery matter while Adam is made of clay") is a declaration of satan. This then circles back to other comments in this thread questioning the Organic Matter Mind (clay centric) chauvinism.

> What are the proofs that someone unable to perceive anything from the physical realm can be conscious?

John Lilly famously did his isolation tank thing to get to the bottom of that, in this diminished (but not totally occultated) sensory environment. He wrote books about the experience. I personally find the idea that mere structure gives rise to mind to be 'wishful' (if not arrogant) thinking.

[aatd86]

Isolation tank would not work because living organisms have memories (store data).

You would have to be born with no data and no way to acquire any (no perception).

Would you then be conscious?

Matter is just data of a particular kind as in anything.

The only thing that one is really sure of is existence. Note that non-existence doesn't even exist by definition.

If we want to get into theology, I would even claim that existence is the true unique thing that encompasses everything and all possibilities (some will never manifest physically). Call that God, the One (Allah) etc...

That could make sense. Most of everything else is folklore imho.