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by IncRnd 1276 days ago
It's not a sensical statement but is akin to saying that the fundamental properties of the Universe are Fire, Water, Earth, and Air. It's clearly a wrong statement to say that "Consciousness is an emergent property of your whole body". A person who has their legs and arms removed suffers no difference in their actual consciousness. They suffer a lack of motility.

A person who has had their heart replaced with a pig's heart does not suddenly lack consciousness or have the consciousness of a pig. Extremely short people, such as Afshin Ghaderzadeh 2'1", don't have less consciousness than extremely tall people, such as Robert Pershing Wadlow 8'11".

Stating that consciousness is not an emergent property of the whole body should be a starting point, after which further research and discussion can occur.

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You don't get what he claimed. Your body allows your perceptions which are basically stored data that initiate the construction of your consciousness.

No data = no consciousness.

Do you think someone who was blind, deaf, and no sense of touch from birth can be conscious (have an internal representation) of colors? Dream in colors even?

The science tells that they wouldn't even dream in images.

As was said in the parent comment, the issue is that people have overloaded understandings of what is meant by consciousness.

First it would be wiser to expound on what is meant by consciousness by each...

You are misunderstanding what was written. Due to that you are claiming something that is different that the earlier claim. The earlier claim was that consciousness arises from the whole body. You are claiming that consciousness arises from the senses.

Instead of guessing, your assertion can be tested by closing your own senses. Cover your eyes, ears, etc. - which has been done in sensory deprivation tanks. Closing the senses does not remove consciousness, therefore consciousness is not dependent upon the senses.

> First it would be wiser to expound on what is meant by consciousness by each...

Then, please don't make claims as to how consciousness arises unless you first define what you mean by the word consciousness.

The claim is that a body is necessary for consciousness to emerge. Why? Because of perceptions. I'm sorry but your counter-example of shutting down your senses doesn't work because you have already perceived. Don't forget that living organisms have memory (data storage. Besides, it's probably not shutting down all perceptions anyway...

The better question is would you think you would be conscious if you had never perceived the physical world?