[survirtual]

We feed them, house them, and give them medical care by paying them a living wage & making all these things affordable. Affordable enough so the norm is people being able to have a family.

This cannot be difficult for anyone to understand. Most people cannot afford this in the US (and many other “modernized” countries) — yet we have access to lightspeed comms, which enables mass organization.

It is only a matter of time before these injustices materialize insurgency.

Even land these days costs a fortune almost everywhere. land — undeveloped, with nothing. So legally, most people can’t even opt out in this country by buying a remote plot, building a little cabin and getting some peace and quiet. The paperwork and process is so convoluted with so many useless parties, and the asking prices for land that’s being squatted is unbelievable.

I think we are just at the end of the experience of a nation’s cycle. You cannot show people “with” what it’s like to be “without” so it simply cannot be understood. Those “with” rule because they have time to rule, and they always rule in their favor. It isn’t hard to imagine what proceeds from that.

[AbrahamParangi]

It’s not a matter of understanding. Many people just don’t believe that the statements you made match reality.

It’s not a difference of competence, it’s a difference of axioms. You believe that (almost?) all people would desist from antisocial behavior if they had food, shelter and medical care. Others do not believe this, because they have different beliefs regarding human nature.

[survirtual]

I didn’t say they would desist from antisocial behavior. Vandalizing the infrastructure for an oppressive society can be a perfectly social activity when conducted with others outcasted from said society.

I am saying there would be significantly less legitimate reason to vandalize or rebel against a social structure that was inclusive and supportive of its people. If opportunity was afforded people, with a patient kindness, you would be amazed at what’s possible.

Not seeing that is most certainly a difference of competence, the competency being compassion.