[eastbound]

France has UBI in the form of “RSA” since 1981. It is proportional to the number of children, so you can live with children on it, and use the state-provided accomodations.

For now it rather seems that it has created two sorts of populations: Those who live off it, and those who work, the two forever opposing each other, the latter literally enslaved by the masses of the former. The enslavement in a society which is ever-more reliant on the remaining workers meets another phenomenon: Shunning the workers who protest, because looks at all this poverty, why would you not accept to fund them.

[alexeichemenda]

France’s RSA does not meet UBI standards that we’re considering in the US / California because the amount paid is so small. If you live alone with 2 kids, RSA would be 899€/month in 2022, far below minimum wage.

[Glawen]

RSA is not only the monthly amount paid, the recipients also live in social housings paying next to nothing in rent, heating, healthcare and transportation.

A similar thing exists in other country like UK or Germany

[eastbound]

And cost of living in France is very low. People are happy with 1800€, as long as they have the rebates for theater and transports.

[jefftk]

Do you mean housing and transportation, or is there really something specific to theater?

[ido]

I assumed it was a mistranslated pun on "bread and circuses": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_and_circuses

[eastbound]

A lot of things are cheaper when you have the RSA, but granted, it’s mostly leisure and optional things (museums, cinema, holidays at ucpa.com, etc). (ucpa.com is an excellent sports camp address for 18-40, by the way).

[Glawen]

Not only optional thing. Metro/bus/tramway are nearly free for them. They also have reduced rate for utilities. Granted it is not easy to live with 500€ a month, but you can get by.

[tut-urut-utut]

899€ in France >> 899€ in California