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by TreeRingCounter 1277 days ago
> it is not "socially efficient" to make any accommodations to disability

More or less. The overwhelming majority of legally mandated disability subsidies in the US are horrendously anti-utilitarian.

> It would be "socially efficient" to euthanize our elderly

This type of absurd claim is a crystal clear indicator of someone who's stuck on a zeroth-order approximation of utilitarianism and isn't factoring in any higher-order terms like people's responses to incentives.

If we started killing old people, would that result in a net decrease in pro-social behavior? Obviously.

If we stopped wasting huge quantities of marginal resources on infrastructure due to e.g. ADA requirements, would that result in a net decrease in pro-social behavior? It would not.

> We have, as a society, decided that we value human life and dignity more than any of that kind of "social efficiency"

Another common refrain of the economically illiterate - claiming to "value human life" while simultaneously working against policies that would actually improve human flourishing. It's also very generous to describe the outcome of selectorate mechanics and lobbying as "we, as a society, decided..."

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Spoken like someone who neither knows anyone with disabilities, nor realizes that they, themselves will likely be disabled at some point in their lives, and will both want and need accommodation at that point.
You're making things up about me (all untrue, incidentally) so you can write off my argument as heartless or something instead of actually addressing it.
You're attempting to appeal to societal utility when the issue at hand is the dignity and well-being of a small, often marginalized and underrepresented, minority of society. I believe that speaks volumes to heartlessness.

Yes, accommodating these people will cost society more (in terms of effort and money) than not doing so.

However, not accommodating these people comes at a huge cost to our society's legitimacy, reputation, and honour.

I'm not addressing your points because I do not believe they represent a worldview that is worth engaging with.