[scarface74]

How is that argument any different than arguing that the country supporting gay marriage will lead to the “eternal damnation of this great country?”. Of course I don’t believe that. But for conservative Christians the order is

<h1>YOUR IMMORTAL SOUL</h1> > country>state>community>social circle>family>personal.

They have a deep emotional belief that supersedes everything else.

They think that anything that doesn’t put “God first” is “naive”

Yes I know HN doesn’t support HTML markup.

[elhudy]

I’m not following…

What i am saying is that regardless of whether or not you take a stance on illegal immigration, the fact that the issue is ingrained in our political system means that it does in fact affect you albeit indirectly. It follows that you should probably have an opinion on the matter and be open to discussing that opinion even if you are not directly affected by it.

[feet]

It never really effected american jobs, we have had migrant farm workers for such a long time but only recently has one side of the political spectrum decided to make a big deal about it. It's fear mongering nonsense

[elhudy]

I feel like I’m being misunderstood and talking in circles here, and maybe that’s my fault. it’s tough to keep track of this conversation on mobile in between holiday activities.

I’m going to chalk this one up as an L and move on.