[enos_feedler]

Agreed. And that while I am not claiming Apple as a savior here or anything, imagine how bad it could be if we didn’t have at least 1 company still in the business of selling computers. At least to SOME degree. Things could be a lot worse

[eternityforest]

Apple does some amazing things with network protocols, but they are a leading force in pushing walled gardens, locked down devices, and such.

Other companies give you less privacy, but more functionality exposed to the user.

Of course, without Apple's walled gardens, google might lock down their stuff too, no longer needing to have a bit of openness to differentiate themselves.