[stjohnswarts]

I agree. The only middle east action I supported was hunting down bin Laden and freeing Kuwait. I had a couple of friends die unnecessarily and begged my brother not to join the armed forces and paid for his college tuition instead because I knew the same could happen to him. I don't think we should have been in Vietnam either. So we have something to agree with there. I do think we either pay now or pay a LOT MORE later when Russia beats Ukraine into submission if we stop supporting them (as NATO) by sheer size and resource superiority. That will include more Americans dying, because taking Ukraine will only encourage Russian land war ambitions in Europe. Ukraine has the will and inspiration, let's help them with all they need.