[HansF]

Well, they sort of build/manage stuff for you.

So when you ask for pricing information, you get a call from a account manager, who helps you find what you need and offers a price. For instance if you need a server to do your email there are a lot of options and solutions to choose from, managed server or exchange mailboxes.

Ofcourse at that moment they'll try to sell you some more, like file hosting, terminal services etc...

It's just not a plan A, B and C with options x y z company.

[davidw]

> Well, they sort of build/manage stuff for you.

And I don't want that. I know how to build/manage stuff, so I want to know how much it costs to have a server there. The less they have to do, the better for both of us - the only thing I need them for is to kick the hardware if it has a problem.

[HansF]

You can tell your customer rep that. I'm sure he will oblige.

They just want to talk to you to get everything set up like you want/need it.

How much memory does your server need? Need a backup solution? How bout an apc module? What are the bandwith requirements, do you need multi or single gigabit lines? Like I said, their business works more on a case by case basis instead of select a, b or c and proceed to checkout. I'm not saying you have to join them, but they're a good, solid serviceprovider.

[davidw]

Yeah, I don't want that crap, and view it as being annoying. Other people might find it necessary, or worth their money, so I don't think it's bad, it's just not for me.

I was thinking of getting a slice with Slicehost, but now I'm not so sure. I guess it's too early to tell what will happen.