[TedDoesntTalk]

You can assign meaning to anything. You can assign meaning to a bird passing over your head as you propose to your girlfriend: "it was meant to be."

So sure, there can be meaning in being useful to society. But that's not really my point. My point is that meaning does not need to be a goal. If you hang your life's worth on the meaning you find, I am betting you're going to be disappointed a lot of the time. It doesn't need to be that way. Look beyond meaning for worth and value.

[coldtea]

>Look beyond meaning for worth and value.

Then what gave your life "worth" and "value" would be what gave it meaning.

You're pretty much saying the same thing, but with different semantics for meaning.

Meaning doesn't necessarily mean to "some big end goal". People use it for anything that they feel makes their life worth it ("gives it meaning"). So "being of help to others" to "enjoying family life and friendships" or "expressing myself through playing the piano" to "religion" can all be said to imply meaning.

[TedDoesntTalk]

I guess we don't agree on the semantics of meaning. For example, the "meaning of life" is not the same as "value of life" or "worth of life".

[IIsi50MHz]

As with many words, 'meaning' is multiply overloaded, and whichever concept (or concepts) come to mind is heavily dependent on the established or assumed context.

I would normally feel a sense of ambiguity when somebody wrote of "giving their life meaning" (but less so when spoken, because they might emphasise '_/meanin/_'), but would not feel much about the phrase "the meaning of life", nor "life, the universe, and everything!".

[tremon]

I think you're using a different interpretation of meaning than other people in the thread. It looks like you're using "meaning" in the sense of "that which hints at a deeper design beyond our own", while others use "meaning" in the sense of "that which brings personal fulfillment".

[lazide]

Is not being useful to others worthwhile and valuable?

[TedDoesntTalk]

Indeed, it is!

[shanebellone]

"Look beyond meaning for worth and value."

Well said.

[Godel_unicode]

That doesn’t mean anything.