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by prairiedogg 1280 days ago
I'm curious where I could find an example of someone saying that working hard and being punctual are white supremacist.
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It's a real example of the kind of woke nonsense that gets bandied around by a certain segment of too-online activists (on both sides of the issue). Try a quick Google for something like "toxic whiteness objectivity sense of urgency" or similar and you should see some of the examples, and also commentary from both sides on the ideas.

Disclaimer: I don't mean to imply that all the ideas under the umbrella of "wokeness" are nonsense, there's good and bad stuff in that category - but this particular example is, to my eye, pretty damn silly.

It probably draws from the notion of non-Western cultures' polychronic time (vs. Western monochronic time): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronemics

``` The United States considers itself a monochronic society. This perception came about during the Industrial Revolution. Many Americans think of time as a precious resource not to be wasted or taken lightly.[5] As a communication scholar Edward T. Hall wrote regarding the American's viewpoint of time in the business world, "the schedule is sacred." Hall says that for monochronic cultures, such as the American culture, "time is tangible" and viewed as a commodity where "time is money" or "time is wasted." John Ivers, a professor of cultural paradigms, agrees with Edward Hall by stating, "In the market sense, monochronic people consume time."[6] The result of this perspective is that monochronic cultures place a paramount value on schedules, tasks, and "getting the job done."[full citation needed]

Monochronic time orientation is very prominent in North European cultures, Italy, Greece, Spain, England, and the Scandinavian countries.[7] For example, a businessperson from the USA has a meeting scheduled, they then grow frustrated because they are waiting an hour for their partner to arrive. This is an example of a monochronic time oriented individual running in with a polychronic time oriented individual.[8] The interesting thing is that even though America is seen as one of the most monochronic countries it "has subcultures that may lean more to one side or the other of the monochronic-polychronic divide" within the states themselves. One can see this as they compare the southern states to the northern ones. John Ivers points this out with comparing waiters in the northern and southern restaurants. The waiters from the north are "to the point": they will "engage in little" and there is usually "no small talk." They are trying to be as efficient as possible, while those in the south will work towards "establishing a nice, friendly, micro-relationship" with the customer. They are still considerate of time, but it is not the most important goal in the south.[6]

The culture of African Americans might also be seen as polychronic (see CP Time) ```

``` A polychronic time system is a system where several things can be done at once, and wider view of time is exhibited and time is perceived in large fluid sections.[4]

Examples of polychronic cultures are: Latin American, African, Arab, South Asian, and Native American cultures. These cultures' view on time can be connected to "natural rhythms, the earth, and the seasons". These analogies can be understood and compared because natural events can occur spontaneously and sporadically, just like polychronic time oriented people and polychronic time oriented cultures.[9] A scenario would be an Inuit working in a factory in Alaska, the superiors blow a whistle to alert for break times, etc. The Inuit are not fond of that method because they determine their times by the sea tides. How long it takes place and how long it lasts. In polychronic cultures, "time spent with others" is considered a "task" and of importance to one's daily regimen.[8]

Polychronic cultures are much less focused on the preciseness of accounting for time. Polychronic cultures are more focused on tradition and relationships rather than on tasks. Polychronic societies have no problem being late for an appointment if they are deeply focused on some work or in a meeting that ran past schedule, because the concept of time is fluid and can easily expand or contract as need be. As a result, polychronic cultures have a much less formal perception of time. They are not ruled by precise calendars and schedules.[5] ```

Here's a state employee working on the taxpayer's dime who didn't want to work too hard because doing so would further white supremacy: https://reason.com/2022/07/02/urgency-is-a-white-supremacy-v...

That's one example, but step into any nonprofit's office these days and you'll find plenty.

At least where I work we were forced to listen to a couple of lectures from people saying exactly this as part of the "DEI" initiative. The second one of course started with them reading the talmud at us.

The whole thing felt like a parody of itself.