[orwin]

And? Sorry but musk sold robot-taxi by 2020 and cheaper trucking by 2019. And precommands.

I don't see any differences between the two. I admit I did look at thunderfoot's videos on musk and was convinced since 2019 he was a small conman. I don't understand how Holmes is any different.

[tyleo]

Lying about future products, “it will do X” is much different than lying about what you have in the market right now “it is doing X”.

Elon engages in the first, Holmes in the second. I think, if Holmes merely went bankrupt because she couldn’t get to a functional product rather than releasing a product and knowingly lying about its capabilities, she’d be in much less hot water.