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by masklinn 1273 days ago
> Kotlin might fit the Java niche, if you trust someone that sells IDEs to make a language.

They would at least know how to make a language that's not a pain in the ass to analyse, which is probably in its favour.
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the_gipsy 1273 days ago
Yea - but that's offered by all modern languages, and they're not tied to one particular IDE since LSP took off.
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masklinn 1273 days ago
> that's offered by all modern languages

I see you've yet to meet Scala.

> they're not tied to one particular IDE since LSP took off.

There's at least one language server for Kotlin.

I'm not even a interested in (let alone a user of) Kotlin, but you seem to have a very not-objective view of it for some reason.

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the_gipsy 1273 days ago
Are you saying Scala has bad code analysis? I recall it being as good as Java's. Anyway, that's just a matter of defining "modern languages" then.

> There's at least one language server for Kotlin.

I didn't say there is none, I said that any modern language has one. An IDE is not a selling point anymore, in my humble opinion.

> you seem to have a very not-objective view of it for some reason

I just think that shoehorning Kotlin into "the go niche" is absurd , and that the "good code analysis" argument is moot.

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shakow 1273 days ago
> I just think that shoehorning Kotlin into "the go niche" is absurd

That's what you say, but you don't really tell us why.

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the_gipsy 1273 days ago
It's not my burden of proof. If you think something like compiling kotlin instead of running a JVM is akin to compiling with go tooling, then at this point anything that somehow compiles to native (and beyond) is in the "go niche".
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masklinn 1273 days ago
> It's not my burden of proof.

You're the one asserting that it's unsuitable. So it very much is.

> If you think something like compiling kotlin instead of running a JVM is akin to compiling with go tooling, then at this point anything that somehow compiles to native (and beyond) is in the "go niche".

I don't know about the other commenters, but that's literally the only criteria you've deigned offer so far, aside from some sort of conspiratorial implications.

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