| I can't remember where but Rich Hickey at one point said himself web development isn't a solved problem If you agree web development isn't a solved problem, do you want to couple your entire language to a massive framework that is committed to solving an un-solved problem in the general sense using technique X that presumably will need to be replaced Y years down the line? Or not work in situation Z Personally I don't want that for Clojure, instead I see lots of different approaches in Clojure (and some outside) that could be the next big thing: - https://www.hyperfiddle.net/ - https://github.com/whamtet/ctmx - https://github.com/leonoel/missionary - Unison Ultimately I want to go long on my programming language and short on "the one true framework" until we have a one size fits all approach for solving the general problem of web development, until then give me low coupling libraries that I can mix and match And that's exactly what Clojure is doing right now, maybe in the end it will be something like chatgpt just mix and matching the approaches for you but for now I'm personally not looking for a framework to be the only way to use Clojure |