[robomartin]

This is hilarious. There are literally thousands of businesses doing very well after moving out of CA and you think you know better because you run Quickbooks. As if nobody can run a great business anywhere outside CA. Please.

[gamblor956]

Lol, I don't use Quickbooks, though several of my former startup clients did. One of them had profits of about $3xx million last year on sales of roughly $2 billion, and they're still using Quickbooks. Quickbooks is a lot more powerful than people think it is, though at that size they really should be considering Fusion instead, or even upgrading directly to SAP or Oracle if they foresee needing that sort of complexity.

My client base of successful California companies exceeded the value of the companies fleeing California by about several hundred billion dollars. Post-COVID, the CA companies are even more valuable than the ones that fled California when they couldn't cut it in a competitive capitalist environment. But yes, you're right that companies that took government handouts from other states to leave CA are surviving off those governments handouts.

However, you're just embarrassing yourself. You've been whining on HN about your company leaving California for a few years now, it's pretty clear that at this point your company has evaluated that option and determined it was actually a stupid thing to do. It's like Elon Musk's "first order thinking": leaving California sounds great on paper until you actually look at the numbers and discover that it doesn't solve anything and actually makes things worse.