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by trappist 1275 days ago
> promoting heavy meat diets

The ones not promoting heavy meat diets are generally recommending (and/or shilling) supplements of nutrients you get for free on a heavy meat diet, such as protein shakes and creatine powder.

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Seasoned (non-enhanced) lifter here with a science background

There is a solid evidence base for creatine - it's one of the only supplements that actually has a decent evidence base. It's also relatively cheap and generic brands work.

Generally with the fitness industry, the key is looking for the quality sources of information. There are some good resources out there focussed on an evidence based and naturals or being open & transparent with information about "the dark side"...

- SSD abel - Geoffrey Verity Schofield - Team 3DMJ - Dr Mike Israetel - Stronger by Science - Brains and Gains with Dr. David Maconi

Also.....one of the biggest benefits of regular exercise and lifting for me personally is the mental health side of things. Really can't overstate this.

There’s nothing wrong with supplementing nutrients that we know can be supplemented. I certainly don’t see the reason not to that doesn’t cash out into sophistry or some notion of naturalistic fallacy.

Requiring every nutrient to come from food seems arbitrary, especially with nutrients that tend to be added to the product upstream, like supps given to animals or vitamin D in milk.