[msla]

Why are you so absurdly adamant about people not being able to end suffering?

You dig up some bizarre stories created by people with agendas, and refuse to acknowledge that the right to life includes the right to choose how life ends, and to deny that is to deny the basic rights of humanity. You absolutely refuse to see that the government has no place to mandate suffering.

Why do you think the government should step in and demand people suffer? Why are you so pro-big-government?

[wernercd]

The problem isn't people not being able to end suffering... the problem is people being ended before time and people being ended because they are poor and the government is simply cost cutting.

"created by people with agendas" and "MAID" is defended by people with agendas. Everyone has an agenda - even people like you that presumably want to "end suffering".

"why do you think the government should step in and demand people suffer" Because anyone who trusts the government with the right to end peoples lives and ignores OBVIOUS problems with such power (IE: the stories about people with "agendas" - aka those who shouldn't be getting killed) is ignorant of governments abusing powers.

"Why are you so pro-big-government?" I'm not pro big government... I'm anti-government killing people. I don't think they should have the right to cut costs by killing people who shouldn't be killed.

Don't try to spin this as pro-big government... it's actually ANTI big government because I don't trust the government. If you do? You're ignorant of history - past and present.

[msla]

You're so pro-big-government you don't want people to decide for themselves when to end their lives.

I can't hardly believe it.

[wernercd]

"I can't hardly believe it."

That's because you're not talking about anything I believe in. You believe in a fairy tale. Something that doesn't exist.

Nothing about my stance is "pro-big-government"... my stance is actually pro-limited government.

Again: If you trust the government to decide when people die? You're not that smart.

Then again... you think I'm pro-big-government so... not that smart.

Canada has government run healthcare and that government run healthcare is pushing people to kill themselves to save money.

That's not you deciding to die. That's you getting pushed to die to save bean counters in the government money.

YOU are so pro-big-government that you want to give government run healthcare the right to kill you because it's better for tax payers.

See how that works? I can make non-sense statements too.

[emodendroket]

Not an especially convincing argument for those who do not see it as axiomatic that “big government” is in itself bad.