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by LeoPanthera 1276 days ago
A big difference is that while an EV is sitting plugged in, it can heat itself from wall power, rather than burning gas to do it.
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It's called a block heater and they have been in use for many decades in cold climates.
Block heaters don't heat the cab, so it's still uncomfortable
Not directly, but the warm water in the block will mean that at least some heat is immediately available once you start the car. The main benefit of block heaters is not in heating the cab, but heating the engine itself so that it's actually possible to start it.

That aside, never understood the value of "pre heating" the car interior. If it's that cold, you're wearing a coat and gloves (or should be). Start the car, drive off, and you'll have heat within a few minutes.

The value is not having to wear all that gear while driving, and just comfort generally.

Living in the bay area it's nice that the Teslas have this capability to warm the interior from 55 to 70 before I get in the car. It means I can leave the house in a t shirt in the morning.

If you're driving around in subzero weather without a coat, gloves, and preferably a few blankets in the car, you're asking for more trouble than I am.
You can have them in there, but not wear them!

It’s kinda a pain to drive with a big puffy jacket, especially once the cabin gets warm.

I’m often in this position: car is in underground car park that sits above zero (Celsius) when it’s far colder outside, so I hand-carry my jacket and keep the vent off until the engine heats up.

I don't like driving on icy roads with gloves on, I feel like I have less control of the car
Pretty sure most people with block heaters have these, they run off the same power source https://pic.beely.crasman.cloud/BVC-228/BVC228_11.jpg

Almost all ICE cars I've seen sold in Nordic countries during the past 30 years have an outlet on the passenger side to power these. I think these have been a thing since the 70s though.

I've lived in North Dakota for almost 30 years and have never heard of this
Fuel-type block heaters heat the cabin as well (they turn on ventilation once the coolant has warmed enough). Electric heaters are meant to be used with a cabin heater that uses the same external power source.
I wasn't claiming that they did. The block heater keeps the engine warm to allow for easy remote start.
An EV can do both, without emissions, from wall power.
And another difference is that I can preheat my EV while it’s inside the garage. While I’d never warm my gas engine car inside the garage, not even with the garage door open.
And the nice thing about wall power is that it generates itself thanks to the magic elves.
Or water or nuclear or wind or solar.

Not everything is burning dinosaurs.