[iibarea]

I've lived on the edge of the mission for about a decade (and grew up in Oakland and Albany). Do I think SF is extremely dangerous? Honestly not at all, violent crime is not a major issue here - and it feels safer in most of the city than it did when I was growing up. But I've also seen folks walk into the CVS/Walgreens on mission multiple times and just nonchalantly fill backpacks - and I wouldn't leave a coffee cup in my car. Property crime is extreme here in a way I haven't experienced anywhere else. It doesn't bother me as much as it bothers other people, but I do think it matters - and I think it's very hard to collect clean, comparable data on this stuff given differences in measurement and all the incentives at play. We def have a property crime problem.

[malcolmgreaves]

There’s a sort of violence that happens when your home or vehicle is broken in to. Or when you witness that store getting ransacked. Or when you hear about a friend that gets robbed at knifepoint.

[pessimizer]

The sort of violence one doesn't experience, but hears rumors about. The sort of violence one reads about in articles that have a paragraph explaining why all of the statistics are deceptive because they disregard people's perceptions.

[carom]

Sounds like COVID.