[rayiner]

> Why are people forced to live if they don't want to?

Because we live in a society, not some libertarian utopia of sovereign citizens. Your life doesn’t belong only to yourself, but it belongs to all of us. Your parents, your kids, your friends, your acquaintances. We are all affected by what you do to yourself and, concomitantly, get a say in it.

[ptttr]

If a person belongs to the society, then sick, suffering people are not a value but a cost and killing them becomes net gain for society. It's very dangerous to give away body autonomy freedom to the collective as it could be potentially weaponised to target not only sick, old and poor but political opponents as well.

[x86x87]

hah. no.

your life belongs to you. the options to end it on your own terms is IMHO an act of ultimate freedom. the same way where you should be free to do whatever you want as long as your actions don't impair the freedom of someone else.

[mmastrac]

Bodily autonomy is not a libertarian -only ideal, and the way you've phrased it comes across as some sort of extreme collectivism. I'm curious if anyone has a name for this philosophy.

[subradios]

Degrees.

The reason why abortion and suicide are considered fair game for regulation by some people is that it has potentially drastic impacts on the future of everyone around you and theoretically society as a whole.

There is a nanny state to some degree in all societies, and if we are obligated to put cancer warnings on cigarettes I think preventing incentives loops that lead to medically encouraged suicide is also fair game.

[rayiner]

No, your position is extreme individualism. Most societies have taboos on suicide. Attempted suicide was illegal in most of Europe and in America, and is still illegal in many countries ranging from India to Singapore. Assisted suicide remains illegal except in a handful of pathologically individualistic western countries.