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by rconti 1286 days ago
"democracy is under threat when people ~I don't like~ who advocate the overturn of democracy are elected"

FTFY.

2 comments

You include Hilary Clinton in that? When she called Trump an “illegitimate president”?
We treat speech differently based on context. Yelling fire in the middle of the ocean with no one around is legally distinct from yelling fire in a crowded theater.

I would argue that without the intent or ability to act in a dangerous manner that this speech is legally distinct from the same statement with those qualifiers.

The realities of limited resources in our judicial system and common sense require us to make these distinctions.

The difference here, in my mind, is that Hillary Clinton was not able or intending to spur a grassroots coup that was dangerous to our Democracy based on her statements.

Why do you read Hilary’s comments in the best possible light and Trump’s in the worst?

Why the double standard?

Either calling into question our electoral system is ok or not ok.

It’s important we hold all people accountable equally.

You really are not grasping how ubiquitously this concept is used. Biden has declared democratically elected people like Georgia Meloni and Victor Orban, and candidates like Marine le Pen to be dangers to democracy. It certainly isn't restricted to Trump. The fact that you jump to him shows how blind you are.
Democratically elected people can absolutely be a danger to democracy. I remember when Russia democratically elected Putin. In 5 years, all opposition TV channels were owned by the government and the oligarchs that chose subserviency over prison. In 10 years, elections were so blatantly fraudulent that voting became pointless.
Yeah but you don't see the problem with trying to influence the elections in Italy by obviously bad comparison between Georgia Meloni and Putin?
I don't see it as a bad comparison. Putin wasn't eating babies when he was first elected, either; but his background gave ample reasons for concern, which some people did voice at the time, and which was fully realized eventually.