[remote_phone]

Steve Jobs was a tyrant being closed doors and would often cry in meetings. This sounds very similar to Musk.

Musk is undoubtably a genius, you can’t discount the success that Tesla and SpaceX have had. He’s just extremely heavy-handed and capricious. I heard from someone at Tesla that they loathe being in meetings with him because he will literally fire people on the spot. That type of arrogance did play during the era of tesla going to $1 trillion but now that it’s falling back to earth I wonder how much people will tolerate his arrogance and temper tantrums.

[xen2xen1]

Steve Jobs was smart enough to not be dumb in public. That is a very, very important factor.

[remote_phone]

I haven’t seen Musk have a temper tantrum in public.

[CamperBob2]

Calling someone a pedophile on Twitter withot evidence qualifies as a temper tantrum in my book.

[eyelidlessness]

Elon’s ego fluffers are clearly out tonight, but don’t be dissuaded. Your perception of reality is right.

[eyelidlessness]

I find that difficult to imagine, but a recent one (over the past week) registered several times on the HN front page.

[the_cat_kittles]

mike lindell is a genius, you cant discount the success he has had with my pillow

[_s]

I wouldn't stretch as far as calling Musk a genius - he's someone with a lot of business acumen, and understands how to use social media effectively to get what he wants (much like Trump), and has deep connections to make his ventures successful.

SpaceX, Tesla etc would not be where they are now without all the funding Musk was able to secure and source from governments (grants, tax breaks, investments etc), and then investors - that's probably his biggest contribution.

[saberience]

If you haven't heard Musk talk IN DEPTH about rocketry, rocket engines, etc, then you should definitely watch the videos (linked below). For all his flaws (which are many), Musk does really understand his companies to a depth I've never before seen with a CEO. I've worked with many VPs and Executive team folk and I've never met someone that can have such low-level discussions about how their tech works, the product design, tactics and strategy etc. Also, when you see Elon talk about rockets you also get to see passion and happiness he gets from discussing these topics. I personally wish he had never used social media in the first place as it clearly triggers the worst parts inside him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t705r8ICkRw&ab_channel=Every...

[the_cat_kittles]

its such ridiculous grading on a curve. dan gelbart is an example of a billionaire ceo who shows a genuine mastery of machining fabrication and protyping. just watch him on youtube. musk is such a dilletante by comparison. his primary skill is as a financier.