[constantcrying]

As a user of some public sector German IT Services (provided by dataport to be specific) I have to say that I wouldn't work on them for double my current wage.

The jank was incredible and just using them you could feel the spaghetti code, incompetence and age. My advice would be to stay away as far as possible. As a user and as a developer.

[kioleanu]

I wouldn’t generalize it. In our agency, we keep everything very modern, especially the tools and infrastructure, but also processes. We go to workshops and conferences and then implement what we learned.

Yes, I’ve seen some creepy stuff like 100kb of information on one line and a definition file saying from which column to each column one can find information, but we don’t do that.

Like I said, it’s getting better.

[shortstuffsushi]

With this approach, it's not likely to ever improve. If they can't get good talent to come in and "fix" things, it will probably only continue to get worse

[constantcrying]

Indeed. But that only affects me in so far as I can't avoid using the services they offer. Besides that it is not my problem nor am I in a position to make it my problem.