[Kukumber]

Follow the source, and do research on the different protagonists, it's quite obvious, it's quite similar with a recent event in Iran, there were legitimate protests against an evil regime, i don't deny that and i support the protests, Iranians deserve a better future and an independent sovereign revolution, but there were help from the west, one of them, France, got caught [1], they probably have been tortured and manipulated to lie, but their presence there is already suspicious

It's similar to the position in Ukraine, officially Israel is not there, but when you dig through the propaganda, you find some gems [2]

[1] - https://www.thelocal.fr/20221006/iran-state-tv-airs-alleged-...

[2] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhXevYcytRc&t=30s

I should conclude with:

don't get me wrong, i support the mission and the goal, i just question the methods and i challenge the dogma

[kingofpandora]

I was hoping you had some evidence of Mossad or the CIA being involved in the coup in Turkey, but you don't, which is what I thought.

[Kukumber]

I'm not a CIA agent, why would i have secret and confidential information?

Turkey's intelligence has, read the source

[kingofpandora]

What source???

All you've done is claim that the CIA and Mossad were involved in the coup and admitted you have no evidence.

[Kukumber]

Now you rewrite what i wrote, i suggest you read again my original message, and follow the source

> admitted you have no evidence

forget about me, i am a nobody, i'm not a judge or a CIA agent, maybe you are, good for you

Here some evidence: https://www.ahaber.com.tr/gundem/2017/11/11/15-temmuzun-kili...

And here some lecture: http://repository.bilkent.edu.tr/bitstream/handle/11693/3259...

[kingofpandora]

Finally, you provided something!

Of course, your "evidence" is laughable. One is a student thesis about USA's involvement in coups during the Cold War (i.e. no relevance to your claim). Why did you bother using this?

The second is a newspaper article that describes how the prosecutor has charged a "CIA agent" with involvement in the coup. The evidence presented is that (1) a group of foreigners met in Büyükada and (2) he left the country four days after the coup and (3) he was (gasp!) at a HDP press conference (4) he wrote about Kurdish issues. How is this even remotely compelling to anyone?

Also, you claimed Mossad was involved but not a single mention of them anywhere

Look ... I am familiar with Turkey and I know all the ridiculous things that people believe in that country. This is extraordinaruly weak even by those low standards.