[bagels]

The Bay area is more than just SF itself.

[eloisant]

The Bay Area was crowded already but for the last 10 years (until maybe the pandemic) all new companies have been flocking to SF. It doesn't make it any better.

[bagels]

That doesn't mean that all parts of the bay area have the same crime rate as SF itself, as the gp implies.

Also, I'm not even sure that SF has a higher violent crime rate than other cities to begin with: https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2022/fixing-san-francis...