[Daub]

> [the critics of brute force] said that ``brute force" search may have won this time, but it was not a general strategy, and anyway it was not how people played chess.

No expert in AI or chess, but I assume that this observation is wrong. Chess players do indeed construct moves based on a search of an interior mental library... a sort of pattern recognition. Any chess players here agree/disagree?

As an artist who is amazed at some of the AI art coming out, I can tell you that this is how painters make their paintings. AI is just emulating this. Of course there are differences: AI is not aware of culture, society, new technologies etc. etc. It is also in a closed loop of reference.

My colleagues and I are now envisioning a future where AI image rule the roost, but is calling upon the same 'bucket' of human-made existing art. Eventually AI will start using other AI art as reference, and will dissolve into a sort of 'Lorem ipsum' state: an impression of sense without sense. Indeed, it might be argued that to a degree this has already happened.

[modeless]

Pattern recognition and brute force search are not the same thing. Deep Blue was literally trying every possible move many moves deep, with some heuristics to avoid wasting time on obviously bad options. Humans definitely don't do that.

[Daub]

Noted. I appreciate the distinction that you are trying to make.

I guess that my point is that humans are not true problem solvers. Rather they are 'solution apply-ers', with the solutions being permutations of existing material.

[sdenton4]

"Eventually AI will start using other AI art as reference, and will dissolve into a sort of 'Lorem ipsum' state: an impression of sense without sense. Indeed, it might be argued that to a degree this has already happened."

The AI art on the internet is (in most cases) cherry-picked, and therefore reasonable fodder for further training.

[visarga]

> will dissolve into a sort of 'Lorem ipsum' state

I don't think so. It will explode into a kaleidoscope of diverse styles and ideas, some amazing, some meh, and some horrible. We'll be able to rank by preference and aesthetic scores to get to the ones we like.