[peaBerberian]

I don't know about twitch but I work for a streaming company and we're using the page visibility API mainly to lower video quality when the user is not actively watching the corresponding tab for more than a minute.

This allows to keep audio while lowering bandwidth, CPU and memory usage.

So yes it may be used for nefarious purposes but it also provides very nice features in a media streaming case.

[cratermoon]

I have no doubt there are good uses. Of course, that kind of screws people who have say, two monitors, with the video open in one while they are in another window. You could certainly argue they are not actively watching the tab, but they could be watching a show while they work or chat with family.

Also, how long before the video streaming services use the api to adjust streamer compensation rates based on active/not active watchers?

[peaBerberian]

As far as I know, it shouldn't be triggered when you lose focus due to not being the active monitor, though I cannot really test it right now as I've only one monitor at home.

> Also, how long before the video streaming services use the api to adjust streamer compensation rates based on active/not active watchers?

Good remark, that wouldn't surprise me that they don't already do this on such services by the way, though I'm not at all familiar with stream compensation rules.

You made me want to check if they collected it server-side on twitch by curiosity and they do seem to send regularly some engagement-related metrics (others than what I would assume would be useful to monitor if the player is doing a good job, such as bitrate and frame-drop-related matters). For example a base64-encoded JSON with properties such as "minutes_logged" (which I guess are the minutes since I logged in), a "chat_visible" boolean and more interesting here "time_spent_hidden" seems to be POSTed at intervals. That whole object is also conveniently associated to an "event" name called "minute-watched".

What's strange though is that the URL makes it look like they're requesting an usual ".ts" media segment though it is a POST request, it returns an HTTP 204 No Content and more importantly, the request is not performed by their usual media player script but by another mysterious p.js script, which makes it seem that this is not at all actually loading a media segment.

Maybe this camouflage is here to prevent people from messing with it, as wrong data would probably mess with their internal logic, but I guess that it indicates that they do collect that data on their servers, though I don't know what they do with it. Moreover, they already have features to influence users so they stay active on the tab (for example the bonus points you win by clicking regularly on the treasure chest on the bottom of the chat), so that's not that surprising that they monitor this.

[batesy]

That's pretty cool.