[oifjsidjf]

This. It's the same in a country where I live in which has a sociliazed health care.

Nurses and young doctors are paid like shit so they're obviously all quitting and those that remain get so much more workload they they eventually also quit.

And then the ministers/politicians complain that "the doctors and nurses have no right to protest again" lol.

[FullMetalBitch]

You can either have well paid healthcare personal or socialized health care you can't have both, specially when population is shrinking which is why healthcare across Europe (and Canada) are having the same issues.

[Tagbert]

Of course, even in the US where we pay twice as much for healthcare for the same outcome compared to CA and EU, doctors and nurses are in short supply. Seems like something else may be going on.

[giovannibonetti]

Just because healthcare is expensive in the US it doesn't mean nurses get well paid.

[Tagbert]

No, but while offering more pay might bring back nurses who have left for other careers, it will not bring new nurses on quickly as training takes a lot of time.

[Gud]

Why?

[FullMetalBitch]

Governments don't have unlimited money and hospitals aren't run to make profit which could translate into wage rising (or not). There is a reason people who want to make bank are in the private sector (In my country doctors can work both, so they make bank in the private side)

For governments ro invest more in nurse/doctor wage with a decreasing population they would need to collect more taxis (or implement copay), none are popular among the voting people.

Another reasons is that healthcare is run by policians and mostly don't know how to run things without it being at a loss.

[Eisenstein]

All of your assumptions are untrue.

(1) Governments don't need unlimited money, just to allocate what they have better

(2) For-profit hospitals don't pay better wages because they are for-profit. They exist for the owners/stock-holders, not the employees, who are viewed as 'human capital', not partners. There is no reason a for-profit hospital would pay its workers any more than any other, and many reasons why it would pay less

(3) People who want to 'make bank' are not nurses -- they just want to be paid fairly for the work they do, and to be able to have decent work conditions. The ones who are in it for the money are not going to be in the intake at the emergency department no matter what country or profit/social system is in effect

(4) Why would they need more taxes to pay more wages? They could take taxes they already spend on something and move it to wages, or they could borrow money, or remove inefficiencies, or print more money, or invest in the economy which will bring in more taxes -- it is not a binary decision

(5) And you think that running healthcare with CEOs and stockholders in charge who require profit growth every quarter and are used to working their staff to the point where it is just barely enough to not have everything break because that is the most profitable way to run a business -- is better?